ANDY LEE WILL make the first defence of his WBO middleweight title in New York and not Ireland according to a report in this morning’s Irish Daily Star.
Lee, who beat Matt Korobov in Las Vegas in December to claim the crown, looked set to face Demark’s Patrick Neilsen in Dublin around St. Patrick’s Day.
However, it now appears the Limerick boxer will forego the opportunity to defend his title in front of an Irish crowd and face Peter Quillan in April instead.
By fighting the number two ranked Quillin – known as Kid Chocolate – in the Big Apple, the 30-year old is in line for a significantly bigger payday with the newspaper reporting it could be as much as three or four times what he would make by fighting in Ireland.
Quillin, of course, is a former WBO middleweight title holder but gave up the belt – and $1.2 million payday himself – last September rather than face Korobov.
He said at the time:
“Winning the WBO world championship was a highlight in my career and something I’ll never forget. This is a difficult decision, but in order to make the fights the fans and I want against my fellow middleweights at the top of the division, I needed to relinquish the title.”
So perhaps he had Lee in mind all this time?
I think much more misdirection can be gained from a flat or end over end pass, especially when the pass is in to space rather than directly to the man. Playing touch rugby in Auckland over summer and all the space is opened up by league style passing, out in front, easy to take at full tilt and using the ball to do the work. I remember Keith Wood saying he could have ran any number of lines when He scored off Axel Foleys sympathetic pass from a Lineout V England in 01 I think it was. Foley popped the ball up in space and Wood came on to the ball and went of the line. In the end he took the hardest route and went over the top of the defender, but he maintained several times that the pass made the try, not his bump off.
I suppose none of the great passing at Bath has anything to do with the influence of one P Stringer??
Really!!!!!
A Great player. Never got the same recognition as O’Gara(equally great player).
Just about to comment that John but you got there before me!
very interesting read the skill of a good simple pass in front of the player is some thing the all blacks do best ,The more league type pass is very like the passing you see when watching older games like classic lions and babas games .
Murray, whether you spin the ball or not, depends on whether you are going right to left or vice-versa.
A right handed player will use a spin pass if he/she is passing the ball from right to left because it is natural.
You can get a spin pass off as quick as a flat pass and if you are running straight lines, without letting your eyes give away your next move, then it is equally deceptive.
How is an end over end pass easier to catch?
How is slower, better? It gives the opposition more time to ping you. An end over end pass can wobble in the air.
We use to call end over end passes, bog passes, the Rugby equivalent of the bog toe(toe poke in England)
“The rush defence favoured by so many top-level teams in union has its roots in rugby league; there is more we can learn.”
The rush defence is countered by dinks over the top(not a cross filed kick). Even if a player cannot get the ball, the threat is in the back of the mind of the defending team, so they don’t ‘rush’ up as fast. See Christophe Lamaison’s masterclass in dismantling of the rush defence masters, New Zealand in the ’99 WC. It would be perfect for England’s Linear defence tactics. Big guys, don’t like to turn! It frees up midfield and allows our smaller backs, space.
This can’t be done in league until final tackle.
Nothing to do with the person being right or left handed. Maybe in junior rugby. In professional rugby It’s the distance of the pass that would determine whether a spin pass is needed.
Nothing to do with distance. You cannot use a weighted(end over end pass) over a long distance.The issue which the article addresses is about selecting spin or weighted over a distance in which both can be used excluding close quarter, pop passes.
Murray is arguing for the non spin when non spin can be used.
“Both Ford and Eastmond are sympathetic in their passing; when a teammate is close enough, they don’t spin the ball.”
Over greater distances the issue is redundant.
Your first two sentences contradict eachother.
No, they don’t Gareth. Have another go.
As MK pointed out, league uses the screen to attack and counter the rush D. The use of a end over end is key to this. A spin pass is easy to read and you can watch the player not the ball. With a traditional pass, the ball dictates where the defender is, allowing an attacker to counter a fast D with angles of running. It has nothing to do with left or right handed players, and when practiced, the end over end is just as quick for short and medium passes. I agree over long distances a spin is required,but the article says this also. In addition, an end over end can be passed using the wrist, with minimal arm movement, whereas the spin uses wrist and cross body arm movement to generate the spin and power, especially in amateur rugby. How league and rugby differs is in the propensity of rugby 1st receivers to lie flatter than in league, benefiting the rush D. In league, the 1st receiver lies deeper on 4th tackle to allow him to run the option, similar to a passing down in NFL.
Also, in league you can kick on any tackle, but because possession is everything in that game the kick is used for territory or where a try is unlikely to be scored by passing, so they use a kick to force a goaline restart or a speculative bomb for the wingers to challenge for close to the line. The dink through in the middle of the park is not common as if it doesn’t work you give up field position, it’s a low percentage play. I don’t know if you have ever tried to take a hard spin at full pace, but I can tell you from many years experience playing and watching rugby, it’s harder than trying to take an end over end or a traditional pass.
Shaggy criticised Madigan for his spin-passing being unsympathetic in the Wolfhounds v Saxons match. One such pass led to the Saxons’ intercept try.
Reddan is a disaster for lashing out rapid spin passes to players on the burst no more thanks 5 yards away, gives the oncoming attacker no chance of holding it